Craig Hunter,
Alta UT,
VA,
US
Me: Age 40, 6'1", 200 lbs
Skis: 185cm Line Mothership (measure 189cm), sidecut 142-111-131
Bindings: Head Mojo 15, mounted on the line for a 325mm BSL
I experimented with a bunch of wide rockered and semi-rockered skis last spring, and virtually stumbled backwards into the Mothership. What a find. The Mothership has an early rise tip, traditional (but minimal) camber in the middle, and an upturned tail. They measure longer than spec -- these 185cm skis really compare to a 189cm traditional ski in length -- but I think the conservative sizing is representative of the effective length of the ski.
When tipped on edge on firm snow, the relatively deep (for this class ski) 24m-radius sidecut and traditional contact points allow the skis to hook up very nicely and predictably, and the materials/construction (two layers of titanal sandwiching a macro-block maple core) make for a damp and fairly stiff ski that handles a range of hard snow conditions well. This is important to me, as almost every other ski in this size class ranges from a comedy to a liability on hard or groomed snow. Not the Mothership; earlier this week I skied them locally in the mid-Atlantic, with conditions biased towards east-coast packed snow, with ungroomed man-made snow and death cookies thrown in, and the Motherships ruled. I tried my best to upset the skis and find a speed limit or envelope, but couldn't. I literally beat the crap out of the skis all day long over a wide range of conditions, and they took it with margin to spare, and returned a fun ride on top of it.
When skied powder style in soft snow, skier weight cancels and reverses the minimal camber on the Mothership. Combined with the early rise tip, it makes these skis feel like a low-rockered ski, which is to say, great. They plane up with little effort, and before you know it you're practically carving turns on top of the powder. I'd say this ski gives you about 70-80% of the benefit of a fully rockered ski with none of the liabilities. And keep in mind I am on the 185cm; the longer 195cm would be even better in powder.
Crud? What crud? I had a hard time evaluating crud performance of these skis because they simply keep you on top of the crud, and the beefy construction pretty much makes the crud seem invisible. Forget about notions like plowing crud or slicing through it. The Mothership rides right over it.
So what we have is a very good wide powder/crud ski that also happens to do well on hard snow. But beyond that, I found the Mothership to be about the most "bomber" ski I have tried in a good many years. They get better and more solid the faster you go, and they let you blow over, through, and down the most gnarly conditions imaginable. If you want to be confident about your skis, these won't disappoint. And if you're looking for a wide one-ski quiver, look no further. I already knew the Motherships would be good in soft snow, but their performance on harder snow makes them an obvious choice when you can only pack one pair of skis in the bag. I have been looking for a full range ski for out west, and I think this is it. The Motherships will rock those powder and soft snow days, but not let you down if it's a high pressure week with more challenging and more varied conditions.
If there is a downside to these skis, it's weight. At 185cm, they weight nearly 6 pounds each. Yeah, I said 6. Each. Thankfully, I never noticed that weight when they were underfoot; if anything, it was part of the bomber freight train feel that I dug. But you probably wouldn't want to carry these skis around too much, and touring with them would be insane unless you're Conan the Barbarian. Then again, Conan had some lines that sum up the Mothership pretty well. "What is best in life? To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women." Yeah, that about says it.
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Time for a followup after four solid and rigorous days on the Motherships at Alta. Some points I want to hit:
1) They are very livable skis, and I had no issues driving them for full bell-to-bell ski days. And keep in mind that I live at sea level, and usually have to pace myself to manage effects of skiing at 8500-11500 feet elevation when I go to Alta. Though big and burly, the Motherships are really gentle giants and very livable as an all-day ski.
2) Groomer performance, especially at ultra high speed, is simply amazing. The Motherships are clearly the best performing of any ski I have tested in this waist range on groomed or hard snow. I still have not found a speed limit. When cranking a hard 120-degree turn at high speed several times this past week, I kept thinking that the Motherships would put some of my narrower skis to shame. Tremendous amount of confidence at high speed, and the skis will charge through uneven terrain smoothly, without disrupting the skier at all.
3) Weight has not been an issue on downhill runs. On one traverse where I was breaking trail in wind-packed snow, I might have wished for a lighter ski. But I do that sort of thing once every 5 years myself.
4) Maneuverability in soft Utah moguls is very good. You must maintain a minimum speed (which is a good idea in bumps anyhow), but once there, the skis easily come around to make quick turns in tight spaces. Over a period of days, I got the mixture of upper/lower body balance perfected for these skis. Ride up onto the backside of the bump, toggle the upper body weight forward and then down/around to the front side of the bump, and whip the skis around. The early rise tip and upturned tail allow the skis to spin easily.
5) The Motherships are outstanding in deep crud. I believe the weight/bulk really helps here, serving as the backup "grunt" behind the tip rocker and ski shape. Super confident in crud conditions.
6) Finally, powder. The first 1-2 turns feel traditional, but as soon as speed builds, the tips plane right up. Very nice. Once going, I stick with my earlier assessment that you get 70-80% of the goodness of a fully rockered ski. At speed in powder, the Motherships will keep me on top of the snow, and I can maintain a normal forward stance the whole time. I found the skis got better and better, and more confident, the more speed I added in powder. This made for some mind blowing steep tree runs in 16-20" of powder, where I felt like I was having an out of body experience of some better skier. I give full credit to the Motherships for enabling me to do that. I hesitate to say gear is making me better, but these skis are definitely "enablers". I think they eliminate shortcomings and restrictions of other skis that have been holding me back.
7) In terms of length, I found 185cm absolutely perfect for my height/weight at Alta. Never felt the need for the longer 195cm models in powder and crud, or at high speed on groomers, and I appreciated the relative nimbleness of the shorter 185cm skis in bumps and tight spaces. Finally, it seems I have stumbled on a perfect combination for my needs.
David Hall,
Red Mtn and Whitewater BC,
BC,
CA
Wow, these skis are fun, fast, stable and surprisingly nimble for there size (185" was the model i choose). The early rise helps the ability to make quick turns in the glades but these skis prefer big wide GS turns. They make crud fun, powder euphoric and will handle anything you though at them. I personally love the style (graphics) of this ski.
Slack country would be ok but i wouldn't tour with them due to the weight. They don't feel that heavy skiing with them and they are easy to get used to.
Jason ,
Squaw/Kirkwood,
CA,
US
The 185s are the ultimate western resort ski! They tear up any/all conditions from groomers(which they rail on!) to the deepest pow days(which they plow through, equaling the return of the faceshot!)! Super stable at speed too.
Mitchell@mtbaldy.com,
Mtbaldy.com,
CA,
Unknown
My MO's shred in the spring crud like lettuce. Can't wait for 2-3' more. Slightly short but fine han me downs. Ski it if you can..
Jason,
Squaw/Kirkwood,
CA,
US
Just mounted my 185s!! Can't wait to rip up the Mtns. ALL season!!
Mark,
used to be Squaw now its Baldy, but get to Upper Austria every few years :),
CA,
US
What shops have these skis in the LA area??
gipbmac,
Alta/Snowbird,
UT,
US
The Line Mothership flat out RULES IT! This is the ski the Legend Pro & Legend Pro XXL wished they were! Absolutely bomber in any conditions! The 185 makes the perfect all mountain all conditions resort ski! They're both nimble & bomber! If you are up to it, the 195 will make you feel like superman - there is no equal! They redefine the term blasting through slush at warp speed! Both will instill confidence like no other skis out there! With just a little coaxing they will make any turn shape in any conditions anywhere on the mountain! Add in a Prophet 130 & you'll have the sickest 2 ski quiver!
Mike Degenhardt,
Kicking Horse ,
BC,
CA
These things are BIG and BAD! I'm 6'1" and 200 lbs, I like skiing hard and fast, that's why I went for the Motherships(I also had the originals). But I also find that these babies can be a bit much. This is a sh*tload of ski so don't let your ego convince you to buy more ski than you need!
Capt. Bob,
Ohio, Winter Park, Loveland,
OH,
US
No longer young, no longer cool, no longer care. Paired the 185's with Jester's to replace my Western skis. Late season at Loveland- they plowed through fresh at the top, then hardpack and then into soft and wet at the bottom. Rock steady with surprising control in all conditions. Amazing stability at speed. Carves turns like a snowboard.
Excellent fit and finish, bomb-proof construction. The wood and titanium top sheet is something to see. I probably wont push these to their limit, but will be smiling while I try.
Andrew Whiteford,
Jackson Hole,
WY,
US
Step 1: Click into MoShips
Step 2: Grow balls; Make sure you're strong.
Step 3: Find gnarliest terrain possible
Step 4: SLAY GNAR
Any problems, please refer back to Step 2. Cuz it certainly ain't the skis!
Mike Fleming,
Crystal Mtn,
WA,
US
Enter the Mothership into my quiver. Wow!!! day old but very nice deep crud after a foot 9-12" yesterday at Crystal Mtn. Something to be said for a ski with vertical sidewalls woodcore and METAL! Absolute steering precision through foot plus deep day old crud and lumps of white goodness. SMOOTH. Felt like being on rails on the front side. So solid yet throw em the other way in a trough when it seems like there is no other way and they just come around and save your bacon.
Hiked and skied the Throne chutes and the Southbacks Silver basin same day with some heavier but smoooth pow with a smooth sun/windcrust on the lower aspect. Smokin! The 185 was plenty of ski for me but had me thinking what a rockstar this would be in a 95' up in AK. Buy Em
Joshua Stern,
Kirkwood,
CA,
US
Good god these skis rule. These bad boys have no top speed and absolutely refuse to get knocked around by anything. Wet snow, windblown mank, crud, ice chunks... these tanks just blast through it all. Yet, put them in powder or carve down some groomers and they'll dance for you. I don't understand how a ski this burly can be so maneuverable and so much fun.
Trent Sexton,
Kenai Mountains,
AK,
US
The Mothership: Best ski I have ever used in the backcountry! Supper fast and stable. I have been most impressed in the breakable crust and icy chop, this ski plows through it like a hot knife in butter, makes skiing crappy snow fun! And in the best of snow conditions it rips like non other!
sean andrews,
Park City UT / Perisher Blue Australia,
UT,
AU
i love my motherships coz they're fast, they charge real hard but they are also so easy to throw around in the trees. the best skis ive ever had thanx line!
Jay V,
Summit County,
CO,
US
The 195 just completely kills it in almost all conditions. FAST, STRONG, and unstoppable, the Mo-Ship will get it done. I had the 190 Katana from Volkl last year (almost identical dimensions) and the 195 Mothership is superior in ride, durability, and overall dominance. I have mine mounted with Dukes for all around use. GET SOME!
Sam Smoothy,
Treble Cone,
NZ
This thing is so solid and grunty, you just get on em and just start powering. My ski of choice for the FWT events and any time I want power and stability.
ME,
Mt. Baker,
WA,
US
YAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY MOTHERSHIP IS BACK!!!!
Tony Rossi,
Alta,
UT,
US
I had my first true first decent (Alexandra's Spines) on the 195cm this spring in Haines, AK. 4,000 Vertical Feet in 20 seconds and the Mothership wanted more. You can't ask for a better ski to rip big lines and drop big cliffs. It won't fold and it gives you the confidence to step it up to the next level.
Stacey Rachdorf,
Cannon Mountain,
NH,
US
"It is always the pilot never the plane".... the mothership reassures that truth. This ski is so torsionally rigid and all around solid that it has never broke down for me. On my first run i figured out,no matter what the terrain, the faster I ski the better it performs. I was concerned maybe it was to much ski, maybe trying to ski it on steeps and slowly would be too difficult and make the ski not verstile enough for SKETCHY New England backcountry. My concern proved unnecessary; the 113mm underfoot, less camber, and the shovels early rise allowed me to check my speed and manuever through hard pack to soft snow and vice versa with complete confidence. Through all the technical support and logic as to why this ski rules my world i find at the end of the day i am a skier and the mothership is my ski.
Charlie Berg,
Squaw Valley,
CA,
US
A ski for people that love to charge. Ski fast, take chances and get away with it. As long as you don't flinch, neither will these skis. Last year at Squaw, Rom, the area Line rep was destroying the Palisades on these skis. Large, scary airs to firm, fast landings. I know he was stoked to have them.
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